I have heard repeatedly how Cleveland is so good and wins their trades and read it as a justification fro the headscratching Nolan Jones trade. So lets take a look at trades Cleveland has made over the last 4 years: Highlighting in blue are trades we won, yellow are trades we lost, no highlighting are trades that turned out pretty much even in terms of what we got back compared to what we traded away. Now you can argue that trades like the Lindor trades are "win" but I can argue that the Myles Straw trade, given his low batting average and Yainer Diaz's meteoric rise and Phil Maton's OK performance, could be viewed as "even". So there can be some disagreement in my interpretations of win/lost/even.
Still, the evidence is as I thought: The Clevinger trade and Kluber salary dump are what people use to define Cleveland being good at making trades. However, removing that remarkable trade where EVERY player Cleveland got back for Clevinger is ranging from useful major leaguer to good major leaguer/good prospect AND the Kluber trade because it brought us Clase and, in considering that both cases trades look better because the main player we traded got hurt right away, CLEVELAND GENERALLY SUCKS AT MAKING TRADES. Eighteen trades, 4 clear wins (including Sandy Leon minor trade), 8 clear losses (including the Trevor Bauer trade), 6 even trades (including the Lindor trade). The data is right in front of you. You can make your own decisions. BTW, still pissed about the pathetic Nolan Jones trade. I just hope to heck we don't make any more trades this winter because, looking at the trades below and considering the Jones and Vargas trades already this off-season, any trades these clowns make are likely to hurt this team in the short term or long term. I have warned for awhile about how bad Antonetti and Chernoff are at making these "minor" trades. Well, they are not much better at making larger trades, either.
1. Nolan Jones for Juan Brito (Lost in the short term)
2. Carlos Vargas for Ross Carver (Lost in the short term)
3. Bradley Zimmer for Anthony Castro (Even)
4. Tobias Myers for Junior Caminero (Lost)
5.Phil Maton and Yainer Diaz for Myles Straw (Won)
6. Jordan Luplow and DJ Johnson for Peyton Battenfield (Lost)
7. Cesar Hernandez for Konnor Pilkington (Even)
8. Eddie Rosario for Pablo Sandoval (Lost)
9. Francisco Lindor/Carlos Carrasco for Ahmed Rosario/Andres Gimenez/Josh Wolf/Isaiah Greene (Even)
10. Mike Clevinger/Greg Allen/Matt Waldron for Cal Quantrill/Josh Naylor/Gabriel Arias/Owen Miller/Joey Cantillo/Austin Hedges (Win)
11. Edwin Encarnacion/Yandy Diaz/Cole Sulser for Carlos Santana/Jake Bauers (Lost)
12. Corey Kluber for Clase/DeShields Jr. (Win)
13. Sandy Leon for Adenys Bautista (Win)
14. Mark Mathias for Andres Melendez (Unevaluable)
15. Trevor Bauer for Franmil Reyes/Logan Allen/Victor Nova/Scott Moss/Yasiel Puig (Loss)
16. Yan Gomes for Jefry Rodriguez/Daniel Johnson (Lost)
17. Walker Lockett for Ignacio Feliz (Even)
18. Jodan Luplow/Max Moroff for Erik Gonzalez/Dante Mendoza/Tahnaj Thomas (Even)
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